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I believe Tim might be posting the goes through of your own photo so you can his site, and can article one link to this new newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Palms

connections of your professionals, (the fresh Wingfields was researched rather well, and you will despite my personal typo towards the Howard nearest and dearest, I really do have the pedigree correctly annotated in RI) >>

I am not sure it is an exact report. Does your own guide address the fresh new age bracket *prior* so you’re able to John Russell who age the parents away from https://kissbrides.com/sv/vid/attraktiva-ensamstaende-kvinnor/ E Russell whom yards Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn spouse of Malise

I’ve the second so you can fill in a number of the openings you reveal forthe great-grandparents from Reginald le Cheyne. One of many primaryadditions is due to their paternal grandma (NN on your blog post) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de Moray), sister and you can coheiress out-of Freskinde Moravia from Duffus (their particular mothers Walter de- Moravia and you can Euphemia ofRoss appear below). There is the question concerning his maternalgrandmother: We hold she is actually Joanna de Menteith, second partner out of Malise,Earl from Strathearn. This should at least promote a close explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen from Strathearn (partner successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to possess Helen de- Menteith, sister out of Joanna and partner out-of Sir ColinCampbell out of Lochow (d. bef Can get 1343).

Unfortunately, I think discover added gaps during the Muriel Keith’sancestry (find below). About both enhancements proposed with the tablesbelow, excite indicates of every listed problems, or what documentationmight indicate any mistake listed.

We have holes in ancestries, but fiercely for the reason that from Reginald.To have Muriel Keith, their own high-grandparents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I’m not alert to one paperwork supporting the identity associated with companion as Barbara Seton. When you yourself have detailed one, delight indicates.

3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser partnered Mary Bruce (or de Brus), together with an excellent young man John recognized as ‘nepos’ away from Robert _the_Bruce. This young buck try a more youthful John, not, and never his heir. John Fraser, later lord from Aboyne, was the fresh young man from an initial marriage (it partner unknown; We have so it with the expert of Andrew MacEwen).

3 Walter de- Moravia (child off Hugh de Moravia, and you may Annabela off Fife) 4 Euphemia from Ross (dau. of Fearchar, first Earl off Ross and you will NN deBrus)

5 Malise, 6th Earl off /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (son of Walter Stewart, Elizabeth out of Menteith and

The latest consanguinity anywhere between Muriel Keith and you can Reginald le Cheyne -recognized to had been a beneficial-grandson of Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – is the just research (if secondary) that these several individualshad one or more predecessor/ancestress in keeping.

I have holes in ancestries, however, fiercely in this out-of Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their great-grand-parents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain regarding Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN

To have Reginald ce Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , 2 NN, step three NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, 6th Earl of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, early 15the century, from inside the Leicestershire. E was the d Villiers and Agnes Beler. Today, I do want to connect Agnes so you can Sir Roger Beler, murdered by Eustace de- Folville, but I can’t come across any information regarding their own. Can some one assist?